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vredeman · Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Michigan

Hi,

I have based this off another popular post off another site that was called Camel Marlboro Cigarettes.

What I want to ask here is out of all of your strains that you grew. What would you compare them too? If someone asked you well I really like Gambler, Tops, American Spirt, Marlboro, Camel, Winston, or any Brand/Flavor of Cigarettes/Cigar's/Pipe/Chew etc. Also additives that make the characteristics of how their made.

I get this question almost every time I sell a seed or a plant. I think I have Camel Turkish Golds down with Golden Seal/Turkish Blend. And Marlboro I believe is a Commercial Virginian/ Turkish/Virgina Gold or maybe a burly for the nicotine content? I think they stick to whatever Tobacco is cheapest on the market & flavor it so it tastes near the same no matter what they blend.

I used to order Cigarettes online back in the day like Marlboro's/Camels & would get them from Sweden and other country's. They would taste close but not quite the same as a American cigarette. Almost like they used different Tobacco blends or additive's or both.

As I understand it. Almost all Commercial brands are mixed with the following additives. sugar, cocoa, liquorice & vanilla extract & more crap.

I myself like Tobacco a little sweeter than bitter so I normally use at least a Honey water solution after it over drys out during/after the fermentation/cure process. I have played with almost all the different additives for flavor but found that its easiest to just use a pre-mixed flavoring's like Honey or Tasty Puff.

Also if you like something 100% Organic Blend be sure to talk about that. I've even tried blending the flowers in for a organic sweetener. I have not yet tried it out yet. But that day is coming soon for me.

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smoker · Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 5

Great topic!
I kind of assumed that growing your own tobacco was akin to brewing your own beer - it'll be good, but never as good nor as consistent as the commercial version.
I've been smoking my own tobacco for about a year, but earlier this week - in a pinch - bought a pack of Marlboros. I had smoked Marlboros before so I'm not unfamiliar with them. But I was truly surprised how harsh they were.

I've become so accustomed to (or spoiled by) my homegrown stuff, that the Marlboro cigarettes really left a lot to be desired. The leaf I grew (thanks Dan) makes a far richer, smoother smoke.

Besides, a pack of cigarettes is $8.00. Ouch! I had forgotten about that part.

It's a lot of fun to grow my own, but it adds an extra enjoyment to know I'm producing something superior to what is commercially available.

Wydeboi · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:32 am Post subject:

My experience is that my beer or tobacco is better than the commercial crap. Just my opinion of course.

vredeman · Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Michigan

The problem I have is that. No one believes that the stuff I grew can be better than there brand. Sometimes they won't even try it. Maybe because there scared I could be right!
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bob_kemp · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:33 am Post subject:

Hi --

Most commercial American cigarettes are made of a yellow leaf flue-cured tobacco, (Virginia types or other) and a common cigarette burley at a blend of 4-1 or 3-1. Plus the candy, oils and moisturizing additives. The more burley they put into them, the more "full-flavor" they are claimed to be.

Camels have some percentage of an oriental tobacco blended in too. I don't know offhand any other common commercial cigs that use Turkish regularly.

Certain Winston cig brands have no additives in them (they claim).

As far as people claiming that we can't make a copy of commercial cigs, my answer is this - Why would I even want to do that when I can make superior smoke to those cheapass commercial brands made of floor sweepings, huge amounts of stem plus additives including antifreeze? After only 3 months of smoking only pure tobacco, trying my old brand, Marlboro, makes me gag. The smoke catches in my throat! It takes me half the cig to be able to take a puff into my lungs!

As far as making better beer at home - I did it. Sometimes I wonder if people really would prefer home-made hamburgers to be exactly like a Big Mac. Yuck!

Bob

smoker · Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 5

Bob -
Well said.
I laughed when I read your description of smoking Marlboros.
Like you, I spent the first half of the cig just ramping up in order to get a good drag into my lungs. It was a bit bewildering. My memory was that I could enjoy a long smooth drag right from the get-go, but I was sputtering and gagging now. Felt like I was back in high school.

It might be interesting if others on this forum would try their old brands - just once - and post their review.

Wydeboi · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject:

A month or so ago I purchased a pack of Pall Mall non-filters. It was nostalgia that motivated me as I remembered them to be a great smoke. Needless to say, it took 2 weeks to smoke the pack as they tasted like crap. Just shows memory can be deceiving. I'm not smoking my home grown as of yet, it's not ready. For 8 years I've been rolling my own with all natural no additive tobacco.

vredeman · Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Michigan

Well what blends of Tobacco do you guys use. Please add the ratio and why you blend it that way.
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baccybeast · Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 24

My favorite mix is
3 parts Virginia
1 part air dried burley
1 part fire cured burley
2 parts turkish

it is smooth but has some 'umph' to it.

bob_kemp · Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:10 am Post subject:

Hi --

I haven't tried smoking any of this fire-cured dark tobacco yet, but I think soon I'll make a pipe tobacco out of it and get out my pipe.

Right now we're smoking about 40% SilkLeaf that we grew, 40% Virginia Flue-Cured and 20% air-cured burley. Then I put about 1/2 tbs of molasses mixed with 2 tbs of water per 4 oz tobacco on it and dry.

Bob